
In this insightful Sages podcast episode, we explore the often-overlooked perspective of the pastor’s wife during seasons of ministry transition. Sister Jelaine Lumpkin shares heartfelt wisdom drawn from decades of experience serving alongside her husband in pastoral ministry in both New Jersey and Little Rock, Arkansas. Through honest reflection, she discusses the emotional, spiritual, and practical realities that come when leadership changes hands. From navigating shifting roles to embracing new opportunities for influence through prayer, mentoring, and outreach, this conversation provides encouragement for both outgoing and incoming pastoral couples.

In this powerful and insightful conversation, Jim Lumpkin joins us to discuss one of the most important seasons in ministry—transition. After 32 years of pastoring Word of Flame, Brother Lumpkin shares his personal journey of transitioning from senior pastor to the next chapter of ministry. From health challenges to leadership decisions, he opens up about the real-life process behind stepping aside and choosing the right successor.

Welcome to today’s edition of the SAGES Podcast! In ministry, we meet many people, but every so often someone comes along with a story that truly stands out. In this episode, we sit down with David Mathis, who is turning 80 years old this week, and whose life testimony is filled with faith, sacrifice, miracles, and decades of ministry. David Mathis shares his remarkable journey—from a challenging childhood in Texas, living with his grandmothers while his father evangelized, to receiving the Holy Ghost at just seven years old during a revival in Gainesville, Texas. He recounts memories of growing up around powerful Pentecostal influences, learning the Word of God as a child, and the early experiences that shaped his calling into ministry.

Welcome to today’s episode of the Sages Podcast, hosted by Bill Chapman, where we sit down with seasoned members of the United Pentecostal Church to hear their stories, learn from their experiences, and discover how God is still using them in this stage of life. In this powerful conversation, longtime missionaries Ray and Judy Nichols share their incredible journey of faith, obedience, and ministry across Eastern Europe—including their years serving in Belarus, Poland, and Ukraine. From answering a seemingly impossible call to missions… to witnessing miracles, navigating political challenges, planting churches, mentoring leaders, and continuing ministry even after “retirement,” their testimony is both inspiring and deeply encouraging.