
Join Bill Chapman and Rev. Robert Henson on the UPCI SAGES Pulpit Sages Podcast as they discuss pastoral leadership, ministry longevity, mentoring the next generation, and navigating healthy pastoral transition. Discover biblical wisdom, practical insights, and encouragement for pastors, church leaders, and senior saints committed to finishing their ministry well.

How do we preserve the rich heritage of the Apostolic Pentecostal movement for future generations? In this fascinating episode of the UPCI SAGES Pulpit Sages Podcast, host Bill Chapman welcomes longtime minister, educator, historian, and Pentecostal heritage advocate Rev. Don Martin. Brother Martin shares his lifelong passion for Apostolic history and provides an inside look at the work being done to preserve the story of the Oneness Pentecostal movement. From childhood memories of early Pentecostal pioneers to his current leadership roles with the Center for the Study of Oneness Pentecostalism (CESOP) and the Pentecostal Heritage Society, Brother Martin explains why preserving documents, photographs, publications, artifacts, and personal testimonies is vital for future generations.

What can decades of experience in Israel teach us about Bible prophecy and the times in which we live? In this episode of the SAGES Podcast, host Rev. Bill Chapman sits down with Dr. Robert McFarland, longtime minister, missionary, church planter, and Bible scholar. Drawing from his years living in Israel and the Middle East, Dr. McFarland shares personal observations, historical insights, and his perspective on current world events through the lens of Scripture.

What does a lifetime of ministry look like? In this inspiring episode of the SAGES Podcast, host Bill Chapman sits down with legendary Pentecostal leader and missionary Janet Trout for a powerful conversation about faith, missions, education, women in ministry, and never giving up on God’s calling.
From arriving in Jamaica as an 18-year-old missionary in 1956 to helping establish Bible colleges, training centers, and theological programs around the world, Sister Trout shares unforgettable stories of revival, perseverance, and divine purpose. She also offers heartfelt advice to ministers, women in leadership, and seniors who wonder if their best years are behind them.

In this powerful and deeply personal episode of the UPCI SAGES Podcast, Bill Chapman sits down with longtime friend and Michigan District leader, Bishop Keith McKinnies, to discuss one of the greatest challenges he has faced in ministry and life—a below-the-knee amputation.
Brother McKinnies shares his remarkable testimony of faith, peace, and perseverance as he faced a sudden medical crisis that changed his life. From the initial diagnosis to surgery, recovery, and the journey toward receiving a prosthetic leg, he speaks candidly about fear, faith, healing, and trusting God through uncertain seasons.
This conversation is especially meaningful for senior adults, pastors, ministry leaders, and anyone facing a major health challenge. Through personal stories and biblical encouragement, Brother McKinnies reminds us that our calling does not end when difficulties arise. God continues to use His people regardless of the obstacles they face.
✨ In this episode:
Keith McKinnies' amputation and recovery journey
Finding peace in the middle of a life-changing diagnosis
Maintaining a positive attitude through adversity
The importance of faith, family, and church support
Learning patience during recovery
How God can continue to use you despite physical limitations
Encouragement for anyone facing serious health challenges
Whether you are dealing with illness, disability, recovery, or simply need encouragement, this episode offers hope and practical wisdom from two ministers who understand the journey firsthand.
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Welcome to another episode of the UPCI SAGES Pulpit Sages Podcast with Bill Chapman! In this inspiring conversation, Bill Chapman sits down with longtime friend, pastor, educator, and ministry leader
Donald Martin of Metro Pentecostal Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Brother Martin shares his incredible Apostolic heritage, ministry journey, years in Bible college leadership, pastoral experiences across the country, church planting efforts, and his passion for lifelong learning and Kingdom work

Welcome to the Pulpit Sages Podcast! In this episode, host Bill Chapman sits down with Charles “Chuck” Barcus, sectional representative from Indiana, to discuss the growing impact of the SAGES ministry within the United Pentecostal Church International.
Chuck shares practical insights from years of experience building and leading SAGES groups—highlighting what works, what challenges churches face, and how fellowship-centered ministry can empower seniors to become a vital force in the local church.

Be inspired and encouraged through this powerful message designed to strengthen your faith and deepen your walk with God. Whether you're seeking wisdom, encouragement, or spiritual growth, this message speaks directly to the heart of every believer. In a world full of noise and uncertainty, God still calls us to live with purpose, passion, and unwavering faith. Take a moment to reflect, grow, and be renewed.

Join us for this powerful message by Kenny Bowen and Bill Chapman as they share biblical insight and practical encouragement that will strengthen your faith and deepen your walk with God.
This message explores technology, helping viewers understand how God’s Word applies to everyday life. Whether you are seeking direction, encouragement, or spiritual growth, this teaching will inspire you to move forward with confidence in God’s promises.

In this heartfelt episode of the Sages Podcast, we welcome Garry & Victoria Tracy as they share their deeply personal journey of grief, healing, faith, and rediscovering joy after the loss of a spouse.
Having each been married for over 45 years before experiencing the devastating loss of their life partners, Brother Gary and Sister Victoria offer compassionate insight into the process of surviving trauma, navigating grief, and finding hope again. Their story reminds us that while loss changes life forever, healing is possible through faith, community, and meaningful connection.

In this episode of the Sages Podcast, we are honored to welcome Ron Brown, a respected leader who has faithfully served in multiple ministry roles, including pastor and District Superintendent of Tennessee for 16 years. Ron Brown shares powerful insight into the challenges and blessings of ministry transitions — from pastoring a local church to serving in district leadership, and eventually stepping into a new season of ministry beyond administrative responsibility. His testimony offers valuable wisdom for ministers of all ages, especially those preparing for leadership transitions or retirement.

In this insightful Sages podcast episode, we explore the often-overlooked perspective of the pastor’s wife during seasons of ministry transition. Sister Jelaine Lumpkin shares heartfelt wisdom drawn from decades of experience serving alongside her husband in pastoral ministry in both New Jersey and Little Rock, Arkansas. Through honest reflection, she discusses the emotional, spiritual, and practical realities that come when leadership changes hands. From navigating shifting roles to embracing new opportunities for influence through prayer, mentoring, and outreach, this conversation provides encouragement for both outgoing and incoming pastoral couples.

In this powerful and insightful conversation, Jim Lumpkin joins us to discuss one of the most important seasons in ministry—transition. After 32 years of pastoring Word of Flame, Brother Lumpkin shares his personal journey of transitioning from senior pastor to the next chapter of ministry. From health challenges to leadership decisions, he opens up about the real-life process behind stepping aside and choosing the right successor.

Welcome to today’s edition of the SAGES Podcast! In ministry, we meet many people, but every so often someone comes along with a story that truly stands out. In this episode, we sit down with David Mathis, who is turning 80 years old this week, and whose life testimony is filled with faith, sacrifice, miracles, and decades of ministry. David Mathis shares his remarkable journey—from a challenging childhood in Texas, living with his grandmothers while his father evangelized, to receiving the Holy Ghost at just seven years old during a revival in Gainesville, Texas. He recounts memories of growing up around powerful Pentecostal influences, learning the Word of God as a child, and the early experiences that shaped his calling into ministry.

Welcome to today’s episode of the Sages Podcast, hosted by Bill Chapman, where we sit down with seasoned members of the United Pentecostal Church to hear their stories, learn from their experiences, and discover how God is still using them in this stage of life. In this powerful conversation, longtime missionaries Ray and Judy Nichols share their incredible journey of faith, obedience, and ministry across Eastern Europe—including their years serving in Belarus, Poland, and Ukraine. From answering a seemingly impossible call to missions… to witnessing miracles, navigating political challenges, planting churches, mentoring leaders, and continuing ministry even after “retirement,” their testimony is both inspiring and deeply encouraging.

In this episode, we sit down with veteran minister B.J. Thomas (Bill Thomas) — and as he humorously clarifies, “not the singing one, but the preaching one.” With over eight decades of life experience and decades in ministry leadership, Brother Thomas shares a deeply personal and inspiring journey of faith, calling, leadership, transition, and staying relevant in the Kingdom of God.

What happens when a lifetime of soul-winning meets a heart that refuses to retire from the call of God?
In this inaugural episode of the Sages Podcast, host Bill Chapman sits down with Jerry Staten, a seasoned minister with more than five decades of ministry experience and an unquenchable passion for reaching souls—even in his mid-70s.
If you believe you don’t retire from a calling—you simply adapt to it—this conversation is for you!
