In this episode, we sit down with veteran minister B.J. Thomas (Bill Thomas) — and as he humorously clarifies, “not the singing one, but the preaching one.” With over eight decades of life experience and decades in ministry leadership, Brother Thomas shares a deeply personal and inspiring journey of faith, calling, leadership, transition, and staying relevant in the Kingdom of God.
What happens when a lifetime of soul-winning meets a heart that refuses to retire from the call of God?
In this inaugural episode of the Sages Podcast, host Bill Chapman sits down with Jerry Staten, a seasoned minister with more than five decades of ministry experience and an unquenchable passion for reaching souls—even in his mid-70s.
If you believe you don’t retire from a calling—you simply adapt to it—this conversation is for you!
